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Newsknife ratings @ June 1


Posted June 2, 2009.
Newsknife rates news sites on relevance (how), based on our analysis of the main US-oriented Google News site.

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The following are from our sample of 116,096 listings by 4834 sites for 1224 news items during 2009.

Feature article:
New Google News changes could increase some click-thrus 3x

If you click to see all the articles for any Google News story you'll find a useful new subpage, (Google News gets a makeover). Newsknife calls it the Master Subpage because it expands considerably on the information shown for any story on the home page of Google News.

Newsknife has had to study the mechanics of this new subpage system closely and we discuss here some of the opportunities and issues we think it raises.

A particular opportunity for news site owners is that in certain common circumstances your listing for a story could appear 6 or more times where before at best it could appear twice. In other words there is a 300% increase more or less in the likelihood that someone will click through to your site.

The change in detail:

Until recently, if a reader of the Google News home page clicked "all (number) stories" at the foot of a particular story group, they would be taken to the first of many subpages of extra listings for that story. Each subpage had around 30 listings "sorted by relevance" in descending order, rather like a standard Google search result page.

Now the reader is taken to a first subpage that is feature-rich. It usually includes a timeline chart linking to various headlines that appeared at peak times as the story developed.

However, most important we think, it gathers listings for that story into groups like "related blogs" and sites belonging geographically to regions affected by the story.

For example a story about North Korea might have site listings gathered into "South Korea" and "Washington, USA" groups. The user can drill down to more listings on sub-subpages within each group.

The advantage for Google News users:

At first glance this master subpage seems like a great idea for users. And largely it is. Instead of ploughing down through subpage after subpage of listings to find, for example, a local site covering the story, now they can simply scroll to a group of around three listings for that story under (in our example) "South Korea". And then they can drill down to sub-subpages solely of South Korea-related sites covering that story. This is a usefully focused system.

They could do the same for blogs covering the story, or for Washington coverage or other appropriate groupings of coverage. Or they could drill down as in the past to "all related articles".

What's not to like? Well, we discovered that there is a certain amount of duplicating of listings. As you might expect, you could find a Washington-based blog listed in the Washington, Blogs and All groupings. There may be no way Google News can avoid this, but after a while we found it a bit annoying.

The advantage for site owners:

The repeating of certain listings may become annoying to some Google News users but it could increase the traffic significantly to those lucky sites who now have a listing repeated.

Here's how this would work. In the past in Newsknife's experience, almost every listing for a particular story was unique. Down in the subpages for a story, a particular site might be listed several times with different headlines for the developing story. But we've only found one circumstance where a particular listing would sometimes be duplicated. If a listing was one of the (usually) seven found on the home page of Google News for a story, there was a good chance it would be repeated as one of the first few listings on the first subpage for that story.

In the new setup by contrast, we found several listings appearing several times. Try for yourself and see.

Here's a typical example. Around 7 pm New York Time, May 21st we found the top headline for the first story at Google News to be "Cheney Repudiates Obama on Terrorism Policy" from New York Times. We clicked through to the Google News master subpage for the story.

The first listing on the master subpage was this very same listing. Scrolling down the master subpage we found the "All related articles" link and clicked to its first sub-subpage The same listing was repeated there as the first listing. Back on the master subpage we scrolled to the 'United States' group and drilled down. Again the same listing appeared first on the first sub-subpage. Again also for the groupings "Washington, DC, USA" and "District of Columbia". Six well-placed copies of the listing in all. Surely this would increase traffic to that story at New York Times.

And as you can see above, some stories have several similarly-named regional groupings. In our opinion the new Google News subpage system is likely still being fine tuned. (It may have changed slightly by the time you read this article.)

Newsknife boldly goes...

Newsknife aims to continue rating sites down to the equivalent of 10 ordinary subpages deep, viewing around 300 listings maximum. We figure this is as deep as any but the most intrepid user is likely to drill. We like to simulate a typical user experience so that Newsknife's ratings will be a credible indicator of news site performance.

We imagine that a typical "power user" of the new Google News subpage system might study a master subpage and then drill down at most to two sub-subpages for each group of listings on the master subpage. That could easily place 300+ listings in front of his or her eyes.

However, because to date we have found too many groupings that seem overly similar (like "Washington, DC, USA" and "District of Columbia") we think our ratings would be skewed excessively by duplicated listings if we drilled down from several groups on the master subpage.

For the moment therefore we are monitoring only the sub-subpages of the group "All related articles". Without further ado, here is the Newsknife Master Subpage rating for May (See how we rate news sites)...

Master subpage sources

We found Associated Press 11 times as the first source on master subpages through to 6 times as the 7th source. In total we found them 156 times on master subpages.

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May only:
      1  Washington Post
          11    3    7    9    3    6     156
      2  The Associated Press
          18  12  16  24  15    0     153
      3  Reuters
          12  15  14  10    4  11     114
      4  New York Times
          15  12    5    2  10    2     125
      5  Los Angeles Times
          10    5    8    5    7    2     82
      6  Huffington Post, NY
            1    0    0    0    0  29     62

Our standard monthly ratings:

Top Blogs

Blogs found on Google News home page + 10 sub-pages deep. Rated by volume + Google News relevance ranking. Blogs listed here may link to one of many blogs at that site. Visit the Newsknife Members' Area to see the full list of blogs and blog headlines

May:
95 blogs and their 524 blog headlines found at Google News:
      1 New York Times    55
      2 Los Angeles Times    40
      3 FOXNews    38
      4 Reuters Blogs    30
      5 Wall Street Journal Blogs    39
      6 CNN Political Ticker    28

Top sources for the 2 Top Stories

Dominating the Google News home page when you first view it are their two "Top Stories". And dominating these are the two news sites listed as their first sources. This is the best exposure a news site could aim for.

The columns in the lists below are ranking, appearances noted by Newsknife as No.1 source in the first Top Story, and the second Top Story. The full lists of 24 and 42 sites are in the Newsknife Members' Area.

May only:
      1      7        3  The Associated Press
      2      3        1  Washington Post
      3      2        3  New York Times
      4      1        3  Bloomberg
      5      2        1  BBC News, UK
      6      2        1  Reuters, UK

Year to June :
      1    19      16  The Associated Press
      2    17      12  Reuters
      3      8      11  Bloomberg
      4      7        6  Reuters, UK
      5      6        7  ABC News
      6      6        4  Wall Street Journal

No. 1 sources

Google News usually lists seven news sites per major news item on their home page and thirty on each sub-page, all "sorted by relevance". We award each site points per appearance on a sliding scale (with occasional tweaking) to get the ranked positions.

The second column is the number of appearances we recorded as the first source for a news item. The full lists of 48 and 87 sites are in the Newsknife Members' Area.

May only:
      1    24  The Associated Press
      2    23  New York Times
      3    20  Washington Post
      4    17  Reuters
      5    15  Times Online, UK
      6    14  Los Angeles Times

Year to June :
      1  143  The Associated Press
      2  105  New York Times
      3  102  Reuters
      4    65  CNN
      5    61  Reuters, UK
      6    60  FOX News

Home page sources

This table shows the number of appearances per site that Newsknife found on the home page of Google News as source 1 to 7 for major news items.

Last month we found Associated Press 24 times on the home page of Google News as the first source for a news item through to 21 times as the 7th source. The full lists of 253 and 702 sites are in the Newsknife Members' Area.

May only:
      1  The Associated Press
          24  52  34  21  18  14  21
      2  New York Times
          23  17  11  12  10  12  12
      3  Al-Jazeera, Qatar
            0  48    2    6    6    4    7
      4  Reuters
      5  Washington Post
      6  Los Angeles Times

Year to June :
      1  The Associated Press
          143  202  154  117  116  74  70
      2  Al-Jazeera, Qatar
            3  338  13  20  23  16  20
      3  New York Times
          105  46  49  50  44  40  34
      4  Reuters
      5  Washington Post
      6  Voice of America

Home page + 10 sub-pages sources

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This list shows the total number of appearances we observed for each site. Detailed lists of the top 200 sites are in the Newsknife Members' Area.

May only:
1 The Associated Press  756
2 New York Times  416
3 Washington Post  420
4 Reuters  401
5 Los Angeles Times  287
6 BBC News, UK  270

Year to June :
1 The Associated Press  5506
2 Reuters  2581
3 AFP  2376
4 New York Times  2025
5 Reuters, UK  2124
6 BBC News, UK  1917

Most appearances on home page as % of site total

To get maximum traffic to your news site from Google News you need to get as many as possible of your listings onto their home page.

Newsknife monitors listings on Google News home page and 10 sub-pages deep.

This table shows appearances Newsknife found at Google News during the month. It shows the % and number we found on the home page and the combined total for the home and 10 sub-pages. The full list of 101 sites is in the Newsknife Members' Area.

May:  %     HOME  TOTAL
    1    78.79    26     33  Reuters
    2    41.01    73   178  Al-Jazeera
    3    32.31    42   130  Christian Science Monitor
    4    30.40    69   227  Voice of America
    5    29.70    60   202  FOX News
    6    29.63    48   162  guardian.co.uk

% increase on Google News home page

Column 1 shows appearances that Newsknife found on Google News home page year to date pre-May. Column 2 is appearances found during May. Column 3 is the % increase for May. The full list is in the Newsknife Members' Area.

Year thru
Apr    MAY  %
  11    14  127  Politico, DC
  19    14    74  Daily Times, Pakistan
  16    10    63  Atlantic Online
  49    28    57  Hindu, India
  18    10    56  Ha'aretz, Israel
  43    24    56  Telegraph.co.uk

New sites found last month

Newsknife noted 78 sites for the first time at Google News during last month. Here are the Top 6 ranked by volume found. The columns of the list are rank, home page appearances, total appearances. (The list may include existing sites with major new addresses.)

May:
      1      1     31  Politics Daily
      2      0     23  NTDTV
      3      0     19  Breaking Tweets
      4      0     17  Motorsport.com
      5      1     13  Product Design & Development
      6      1       8  Courthouse News Service

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